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Coccuveda
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Definition : rivière de (G)Bretagne; Angleterre; Northumberland. |
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etymologique :
* Rivet & Smith, Place-Names of Roman Britain, p 311. - Ravenna, 10745 : COCCIMEDA; variante COCUNEDA; COCENNEDA; Lecture par R & C : COCCUVEDA; variantes COCCIMEDA, 10838 ( R & C 264 : COGUVEUSURON) These sources need discussion. In Ravenna 107,45 R&C's decipherment of scripts seems preferable to that of Schnetz (which we normally follow); there is agreement about the first element, but Schnetz's main reading leaves us with -meda as second element, and this, though a well-known word in many languages (including Celtic, = 'mead', the drink), is an unlikely place-name element. Ravenna's Coguveusuron is in the list of rivers; R&C rightly thought it looked like a conflation, but did not attempt to solve the riddle. The second part - say USURON - is probably for the town Isurium, for which see our entry. The first part, COGUVE, strongly suggests COCCUVEDA; we have to assume at some stage a reduction of -cc- to -c- (Ravenna is much given to simplifying geminated consonants), then g written for c (as is common), and omission of two final letters. The conflation would have arisen from misreading tightly-packed lettering on a map. DERIVATION. Ravenna thus cites what appears to be a habitation-name at 107,45 and a river at 108,38, both called Coccuveda. This is by no means impossible, but it seems likely that at 107,45 the Cosmographer, reading from a map, mistook a river-name on his map for a habitation-name, as we can be certain he did elsewhere (the most glaring case is Tamese at 106,38); from another map he then again read the same name, this time correctly as a river, at io838 (but conflating it with an adjacent name). It is best to conclude, then, that we are dealing with one river-name, Coccuveda. The point is important in determining the meaning. Williams, not thinking of a river, gave the root as *cocco- ' red ' (see the previous name) plus -veda, which represented a root as in Welsh -wedd, either 'slope' as in llechwedd or as in cochwedd 'red appearance'. For a river-name we can now affirm that only the second of these is applicable; indeed R&C observe of the Coquet that it is ' filled with red porphyritic detritus from the Cheviot ' (in which case, compare Rio Tinto and Rubricatum > Llobregat river of Catalonia, etc.). IDENTIFICATION. The river Coquet, Northumberland. ---------------------------- Discussion : Rivet & Smith, sans s'affirmer sur l'étymologie, rejoignent les propos selon lesquels la rivière Coquet est ' pleine de détritus porphyriques rouges provenant des collines des Cheviot". Ils proposent de comparer avec le Rio Tinto et le Rubricatum > la riviere Llobregat de Catalogne, etc.
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Bibliographie; sources; envois :
* Rivet & Smith, Place-Names of Roman Britain.
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